Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Floors look VERY good! Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. How are you liking it so far? I have a dog that has an occasional accident. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. The light white washing will give you the raw look. Milesi Natural 2k? But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? It is a work of art. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Thanks. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. (Side shower walls are white). His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Don't disagree with you at all. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. It must be sanded down and done again. Here are some of my samples. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. Please contact us if we can be of further help. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! If, Bona Mega is your budget. We are building next year and making decisions now. This was such a great informative thread. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. is the only way to go. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Not always as expected. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. You have a special floor. They were super rich! They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. They just don't get any DARKER over time. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? Sigh. Not a one. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). @Moran Blueshtein. Heres a close up. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. They did a great job. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? We love our floors! We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. Never to be heard from again. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Which possibly suggests installation issue. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. 3 coats in one day. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. It could be as low as $2/sf. I will post pictures. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? Hd and Supra extra matte does not. what made you decide to go with natural. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. Wow sounds beautiful! I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. I hope these help someone! carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Heres a photo of our family room. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? Really not read much about IntenSeal? The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Would love to see finished product! Thanks so much in advance!! Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. That's how building law works. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? If, youre looking for a small amount. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? I'm sorry you felt diminished. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. Intense seal will cast yellowing. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. Good luck on your project!! Could my response be taken incorrectly? They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. Thanks again! new and it will be white oak common # 1. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? How did you retained the natural color of the wood? Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? The builder already ordered the wood. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Absolutely love the matte finish. It may come in other thicknesses too. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. white oak hardwood flooring. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. And like all things "time is money". Here are some of my samples. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). Thanks. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? !Are you happy with the Satin? It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. Double cost any standard stained finish. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. No one does work for free. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. If, you want a raw pale look. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Also what do you mean by toned oak? If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. When was the last coat applied? Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. If so what brand and color was used? @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. p.s. Thanks for leaving this up. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. Then go with water based and be done with it. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. They should be able to get the job done for you. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Thanks! Thank you for posting a picture! NO true Quartzite will etch. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? and I wish we had another layer of protection. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. They bring in wood from various locations. For a house your size and a $50k budget. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. This is a platform for people to help one another. I am very picky with the stones I purchase. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. That means you relate clean with shiny. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Im glad we didnt go darker. Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). Absolutely, I can see that. (Mirror and lighting still not in). Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. The coating should not come up. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. thanks, All! 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. Right? Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. AhemRight??? WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Hi everyone! We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. It has come out very well. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. It offers a bigger margin of profit. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Try this color if you want a darker shade. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. Ahhhh. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. P.P.S. I have found some great inspirational pictures. It still should not come off. Finished with three matte protective coats. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. Mega turns yellow. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! You only need an inch. In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Why did you decide to go with Corian? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly.
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