Same. All four teams will provide unique challenges for the Braves. Spencer Strider and the Plant-Based Diet When Strider was 19, he was diagnosed with high blood pressure something rather uncommon for a young athlete. As in a guy that says no to everything that people tell them. While Steve offers a hypothesis of free agent years costing $40M or more annually, the reality is Scherzer may be the best pitcher of his generation, Kershaw and Verlander included and his $40M was clearly an overpay, evem on a short deal. Thats fair. Striders been out for close to a month recovering from a mild oblique strain. Long-term extensions do not preclude a player from getting those bonus pool dollars pre-arbitration. His arb years were going to be absurdly expensive. Yeah Anthopoulos has spent right to the cap limit if he brings back Swanson! If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. You take risks to lock down his first 2 years of FA. The average Plug and Play Tech Center salary ranges from approximately $53,527 per year for an Intern to $304,574 per year for a Director. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028. 7 Cubs pitchers combine for no-hitter vs Machado, Padres, Top moments from Brady, Manning, Jordan and other athletes hosting 'Saturday Night Live', Fantasy baseball rankings, projections, strategy and cheat sheets, Rangers' Leclerc to miss WBC with neck injury, Rockies' Rodgers may need surgery, '23 at risk, Rojas to withdraw from WBC, stay with Dodgers, Braves' Strider (oblique) to have start skipped. Hard throwing pitchers get seriously injured a lot. Since 2019, Hopefully he also didnt mean Scherzer, one terrible wildcard game from an elite pitcher like him still doesnt make him crap. Right?? I disagree. I disagree with this because the Mets basically played .600 most of the season. Jansen and Duvall are gone after this yr. Morton, Odorizzi, Yates, and Rosario are gone after next yr. Ozuna will be gone after 2024. Neither Strider nor Harris II were ranked in the top 100 prospects by the media outlets that MLB is using to qualify rookies for increased service time and teams getting extra draft picks. I dont count him anyway as hes not exactly in his first or second year. October 6, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider from the 15-day injured list. Strider has been excellent in his first full season with Atlanta, going 11-5 with a 2.67 ERA and 202 strikeouts in 31 appearances (20 starts). Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? Spencer Strider baseball stats with batting stats, pitching stats and fielding stats, along with uniform numbers, salaries, quotes, career stats and biographical data presented by Baseball Almanac. It will cost money next year. And 2.003 years is nowhere near enough to qualify as a Super Two. The Giants & Cubbies will follow and up the Goliaths to 5. Please login to leave a reply. Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. He was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 before joining MLB, but he missed the season in 2019 due to an injury. The Mets and Braves won the same number of games in the season, and the same in number in October. Explain to me the worth in that? Sorry for the confusion. Dynasty, Mets are going to spend and bankrupt Cohen while winning absolutely nothing. Spencer Strider Salary & Contract | Salary Sport They average the length of the deal. View a free mock draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 4 teams in a STD format. Deferred payments and incentive clauses are not included. I would give this contract a 5% chance of paying off for the Braves due to injury risk, statistical volatility, x-factor changes in both personal life and professional baseball. Not me. Strider will have one pre-arb year then 4 arb seasons. year in year out its the same and those dudes post and produce. Inigo Montoya: You keep using that term, Super Two. It doesnt mean what you think it means. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. Spencer Strider - Clemson Tigers Official Athletics Site But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. It would definitely be an anomaly if the Braves hit on all this extensions. Strider is expected to start in Game 1 of the series. Additionally. Thats $57M add his one year of included free agency for $35M ($40M is bridge too far for me, sorry) and you have $92M roughly for 6 years. For 1st? That wont continue. Roy would give him a full year of service time but he already has the full year of service time. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work. the only reason they have been able to sign this massive core of players is because theyre taking risks and signing them very early. Lets say we overpaid for Diaz, because ultimately thats what it was. Corbin Burnes going into year 5, second arb season (1 year of control after 2023) is due to make $11.3M in his second to last trip through arbitration. They still unquestionably saved on Striders first two free-agent years, provided he remains healthy. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. He also only had 10 starts. Spencer Strider currently plays position Starting Pitcher for Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league in the United States. If you want to be a continuing part of this Braves dynasty, youll need to give us a discount. He was real good but lets not get carried away with how good he is. But most importantly it sets bad precedent for the rest of the league for one team to save a few million dollars. I sure would like to have more of a track record than a single season. Without me teaching you how trade valuations are correctly built, I cant debate with because I think so, I have to explain how I got that answer. If you dont believe me or you think there is something to argue look at non Super 2 Corbin Burnes and Super 2 Max Fried and youll see that their $19-22.5M through 5 service years each is a fraction of the Strider deal, despite All-Star appearances, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers, and a Cy Young award between them. ~$9M (Super Two, Arb1) Jealousys an ugly emotion. Too much money for a mediocre pitcher with one good year. Swanson isnt as good as either of those players. pic . The 21-year old made the transition from the bullpen to the starting rotation. Thats the salary of players in year 2 and 3. It doesnt benefit both parties, Alex A. is a moron that has signed so many extensions that even with all the great deals he got done, the average $$$ is pushing $180M after only 15 of the contracts. Had the Yankees given Judge the same treatment after the 2017 season, we wouldnt be having Judge FA discussions. 2026: $14-15M Lets say Strider goes to every All-Star game for the next 6 years, wins two Cy Young awards, finishes top 10 every other season, and avoids injury. Theyve got Fried under control through 2024. Noah Syndergaards arb years: $3M (2018), $6M (2019), $9.7M x 2 (2020 & 2021). I think there is some advantage, that doesnt show up on the balance sheet, when you lock in your young players. There is nothing historically to say that even if they were absurdly expensive compared to other pitchers that it would even match what he was promised. To think that youre so desperate to troll Braves fans youd pretend you remembered something from 6 years ago that a small minority of Braves fans may/may not have ever said. Now ya have your CF 1b 2b 3b rf and strider all signed to under market value contracts and still have money to sign swanson and dip into free agent pool. Let's check, How Rich is Efra, Duane Theiss estimated Net Worth, Biography, Age, Height, Dating, Relationship Records, Salary, Income, Cars, Lifestyles & many more details have been updated below. Why pay him more than the ML minimum hes going to get next season (if he even makes the ML roster)? When multiple players including likely Judge, Turner, and Correa surpass 7 years with a $35 MM AAV will you come back and say you were wrong? Figuring he sets records all along the way: $1M (2023) High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN), School: Clemson University (Clemson, SC), Debut: So they can hamstring their salary cap ceiling by an additional $14M each of the next two years? If Strider is willing to take an extension now, he should be just as willing to do so again after another great year or two. Braves fans are setup extremely well. Dansby is gone. Braves' rotation is deep, and Spencer Strider can make it next-level The only way he wouldnt is with a long demotion next year. Exceeded rookie limits during 2022 season, 2023 Contract Status: If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. A contract representing mutual respect is a good thing. Later in the season, he missed the season due to a torn UCL, which necessitated Tommy John surgery. This is going to be the Kevin Brown deal that literally changed the market in a day. SUMMARY 2022 Career WAR 3.7 3.7 W 11 12 L 5 5 ERA 2.67 2.69 G 31 33 GS 20 20 SV 0 0 IP 131.2 134.0 SO 202 202 WHIP 0.995 1.000 All images are property the copyright holder and are displayed here for informational purposes only. Its not a bargain. Its a horrible deal, set your expectations to hate it now, so you are less annoyed in 3 years. Theyll probably lose even more money on those years than they gain with the discount on the one or two free agent years, which probably would only be worth $30M max per season even if everything goes mostly right for him. If you wait a year or two and he continues to pitch well, then his pricetag doubles. Who are the Braves going to play at SS the 25% plus of the time Correas on the bench w/his bad back? Yes, it would be more pricey that way, but its worth it to mitigate the good majority of the risk. Albies was cheap and smart. Judge is a high strikeout guy whose average is buoyed by his homerun total. For that to be a reasonable number requires him to stay healthy for the whole contract, which would lower his free agent value as it would almost assuredly mean he will have some form of arm injury. 37 Blake Snell, SP, SD. You sound like you have a community college education in accounting. I wouldnt be surprised if he was pitching injured. They were wrong, clearly. Jose Ramirez begs to disagree. Striders is fine assuming he doesnt turn into what every Atlanta farm system pitcher turns into, which is garbage in 3 years. Well, the rich smart teams. The Braves announced a six-year contract extension for Rookie of the Year candidate Spencer Strider. Mets698622(LOL on the 22), Harvey was in no way better than Strider at this stage of his career. But I wonder if a team can reach a point that they have too many of these deals and can could reduce their roster flexibility down the road. He definitely cant play 2B, and doubt hes any better at SS. As a positional player I would be more likely to bet on myself but as a power pitcher I would take a deal with life changing money at my first opportunity. Some defensive statistics Copyright Sports Info Solutions, 2010-2023. Neither had a season as good as Strider to that point in their careers. Spencer Strider - Stats - Pitching | FanGraphs Baseball Spencer Strider Atlanta Braves Age: 24 Bats/Throws: R/R 6' 0" / 195 P Quick Look 2022 Pitch Summary: FA: 67% SL: 28% Prospects Report. Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. You are going in with an assumption that he will absolutely get it. Super Twos are players who barely missed the full year. I dont think you know what straw man means. The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. Strider wouldve only counted around $750K toward the luxury tax in 2023, had he not signed this extension. All of these pitchers threw almost as hard if not equally as hard as Strider, all had varying degrees of success, and none of them even made $40M in arbitration. Was hoping this thread would continue without trolls insulting one another instead of adding actual substance to their argument. Missing 1 seasons worth of games over the length of it (this doesnt seem that hard to imagine with pitchers being pitchers) makes this go from ok to bad real quick. Plus, he didn't love being so young and already dependent on medication for daily life. Some high school data is courtesy David McWater. This year they got a weak season from Acuna, and they won 101 games and the division. Furthermore, Strider struck out 202 opposing batters in 131.2 innings pitched. As for your tech savvy argument, its a very simple. The Silver Strider is a nickname for Spencer Strider. Meanwhile, those games arent even broadcast on local cable, since you again just have to watch on Apple TV instead. Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. Im pretty sure these always lean more favorably to position players. Then, they would have to compete against the Houston Astros, New York Yankees, Cleveland Guardians or Seattle Mariners. Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. 2027: $20-22M. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. That is between 2 and 3 years. The Super 2 status means more than 2 year and less than 3 years. Most pitchers do that. Swanson put up a 95 OPS+ and a 14.5 bWAR in his 7 seasons in the majors. And guess what? He would have been Arb 1 eligible after 2024. Also Read, Tom Stenberg, Cyrus Michael Christopher Dancy, and Morgane Stapleton. Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. You? Swansons best year is his contract year, and even then its only a 115 OPS+ (when 100 is league average). Then add in the two FA years the Braves control at $22 million each, and this deal is great for the Braves. His love of the New York night life and illegal substances didnt help his career along either. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. THIRD BASE Nolan Arenado, 3B, STL. Strider is now expected to join the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. His market will drive up the price being one of the only 2nd tier options (behind pricier Boegarts, Trea Turner; Correa shouldnt opt out). Soto is going back to the Nats after 2024. ET, many of these same folks were discussing an extension that could keep the rookie sensation in Atlanta until at least the 2028 season. Seems like a good deal for both sides. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Grissom has about as much chance of playing a capable ML SS as a fan picked at random when they come through the gate. Only one thing is certain: his grandmother is a huge Cleveland Indians fan. He hasnt even extended Fried yet, and this reeks of him knee-jerking his reaction to Fried probably not wanting to talk about extensions and him wishing he wouldve done something a couple years ago. Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: Spellcheck losers are awesome, sorry you missed the pun. They are most likely greatly overpaying on those arbitration years. Between the four teams, he went 3-7 with a 2.64 ERA, 153 strikeouts, and 94 innings pitched. Thats $47M making his free agent year more like $28M with a $22M option. But thanks to you I now have another person on my mute list. Still waiting to see the projection where two arb years are the same, factoring in the obligatory TJ surgery. Id be shocked if Strider made more than $45 mil over the next 5 years in total if we let this all play out. The sum he agreed to when being selected by MLB teams has not been made public. This Strider deal might be the most risky considering his short track record and the fragility of pitching in general, but its not for an amount that would hamstring the team. 2 things: For a full look at the Braves' 2022 postseason schedule, click here. If you add those up, you get $77M. Trevor Bauers arb years: $6.5M (2018), $13M (2019), $17.5M (2020) The estimates above are crazy. Will make luxury tax teams wary of him. I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Atlanta Braves Salaries and Contracts - Outfield Fly Rule Spencer Strider Rumors & Injury Update | #65 - SportsOverdose Ya this was a massive overpay for his final 2 arb years even if they get 2028 and an option for 29. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Spencer Strider had 202 strikeouts last season and 202 strikeouts over his career. If he continues to dominate, his arm years wouldve skyrocketed. What the hell is unexpected reply from the server mean? Riley is a good deal. If he spent the whole season on the major league roster he is definitely NOT a Super Two. Put those around 4m for a typical, good player, making it.$69m for Striders first 6 seasons. So as to illustrate this, Jacob DeGroms arb years: $4M (2017), $7.5M (2018), $17M (2019) I know its a business, but much like the Cardinals, the Braves seem to focus more than other clubs on the relational side with their players, thereby giving the Braves an edge over other teams during the respective players FA, if the Braves should choose to being said player back. Data Provided By And And. I agree. They are paying $44 million max for both years and its likely that a single season of a TOR starter in 5 years will cost close to that much. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. If Baez and Story sign for 140 add in the shift going awaythe market for Dans is at least 140 plus. Saying that strider pitched last year too as the focal point of your comparison is disingenuous. Julio Rodriguez still gets money for finishing 2nd in the HR Derby, gets money for being an All-Star, more money for being the Rookie of the Year, more money for probably winning a Silver Slugger, and then more money based on how much of the total rookie WAR was made up of his nearly 5.5 to 6 WAR season (they have their own calculator for WAR that is not exactly like fWAR or bWAR). @Pads Fans Interesting point. For those that missed it, Strider will be Super Two BECAUSE he will be top 2 in ROY and that means he gets an extra year of service time in the new CBA. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM.
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